Why is making long-lasting, meaningful change so difficult even if you have both the desire and motivation to do so?  Did you know that you have a natural immunity to change? 

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Lisa Lahey to find out more about why making desired changes is so difficult. Dr. Lahey explains what she calls “Immunity to Change” and we talk about how we can bypass this built-in immunity and become more successful in making the lasting changes we desire.

Dr. Lahey is the co-founder of Minds at Work and co-author of the book Immunity to Change: How to Overcome It and Unlock the Potential in Yourself and Your Organization (Leadership for the Common Good). Dr. Lahey is a renowned scholar in the field of human development and faculty member at the Harvard Graduate School of Education.

In this episode:

  • Who is the authentic “you” and how to stay true to that part of yourself
  • The concept of Immunity to Change
  • The power of being vulnerable
  • Self-protective goals that are not necessarily serving us
  • How to uncover and challenge your own faulty assumptions
  • Real-life examples of immunity to change
  • And more!

Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


Noteworthy Quotes from This Episode

“You cannot be who everybody wants you or needs you to be. You have to have a self that you are in charge of, a self that you are authoring. And that is the way to actually resolve the dilemma of how you make everybody happy. You reframe the whole thing.”

“One of the major contributors to why change is so hard is that we are insufficiently understanding what the nature of the problem is.”

“In order for us to create sustainable change, we have to access the parts of us that tend to be invisible, unconscious, and hidden to us.”

“You need to see the ways in which you are currently immune to change in order to actually be able to make the change”


Resource Links:

If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out my book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.

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Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Lisa Lahey


Connect with Janet Ioli:

Linkedin: Janet Ioli

Instagram: @janetioli

Website: janetioli.com

Janet is the founder of Power Presence Academy.  She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.