E45: The Power Code for Women with Katty Kay and Claire Shipman
“The women who get to the top of the existing power structures have the ability to make the most change.”
Today’s episode is all about women and power.
We explore the question, “How do we move away from the old notion of what constitutes power and redefine it to meet the needs of the future?” That question leads to a deeper discussion about how women leaders can embody and model this new type of power.
I was introduced to my guests, Katty Kay and Claire Shipman, when I read their book, “The Confidence Code”. I recommend that book to almost every woman leader I work with, as it offers meaningful research and insights about the cultivation of confidence in women. I have the pleasure to talk to these veteran journalists, authors, and all-around powerhouse women about the research and conclusions about women and power in their new book, “The Power Code”, which launches today.
In this episode:
- Why Katty and Claire decided to explore the concept of power
- Why are we, as women, so afraid of the word power?
- Redefining power structures as women
- Kay’s and Shipman’s advice for women leaders
- How we can use power differently
Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.
Noteworthy Quotes from This Episode
“We need more women in leadership. We do lead differently. Diverse leadership brings better results. Women are just more collaborative and less hierarchical in every measure. We need more of that kind of leadership.”
“What we need to do is take a long, hard look at power itself. What power has always been, people who have had access to it, how power is used, and how you get power. And I think we’ve come up with an idea that if we could redefine these things, actually, it would be better for women. Women would find it more appealing. And it would probably be better for men and organizations and countries too”
“What we started to see (in our research), and even female academics told us that this is starting to happen, was that as more women are studying power, the notion of what power is is being broadened.”
“They wanted Alpha men with skirts on. They wanted to clone men. And that’s not what brings you the value of diverse leadership.”
You can find The Power Code, The Confidence Code, and the rest of Katty and Claire’s books on their website.
If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out my book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.
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Connect with today’s guests on their website: Kay and Shipman
Katty and Claire are veteran journalists based in Washington DC. Both women have covered the White House extensively and reported on multiple presidential elections, the Trump and Clinton administrations, financial collapses, and the wars in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. They are advocates for change when it comes to issues vital to women, and developing a much-needed confidence movement for women of all ages. Together, they have authored three highly successful books including the New York Times bestselling books The Confidence Code and The Confidence Code For Girls.
Connect with Janet Ioli:
Linkedin: Janet Ioli
Janet is the founder of Power Presence Academy. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.