“Your joy doesn’t come from filling out the paperwork, your joy doesn’t come from meeting that priority goal, your joy comes from the people that you lead”

How can we create workplaces where we lead with love and laughter? 

Whether you’re working in a corporation, a nonprofit, or a government organization, think about the climate and think about the culture that you’re creating as a leader. Is it fear-based, risk-averse, serious, and riddled with judgment? Or is it an environment where people feel connected to each other and the mission, and love coming to work? The tone you set with your words and behaviors every day creates the culture people experience at work.

In this episode, I talk to Patrick Malone and Zina Sutch, authors of the book Leading with Love and Laughter. We talk about why leading with love and laughter is critical to creating productive and meaningful workplaces.

In this episode:

  • What has changed and evolved in Zina and Patrick’s thinking about leadership over the years
  • The importance of taking care of yourself and self-love
  • Research that supports the benefits of bringing love, laughter, and joy in an organization
  • Holding people accountable with love
  • How to lead with love and laughter
  • And more!

Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


Noteworthy Quotes from This Episode

“You can follow a process or a system to a T, and yet still not be that leader that motivates people, engages people, and has people wanting to be there and working with you.” 

“That’s not what leadership really is. It’s not a series of steps that you take to where you automatically get to label yourself that way.”

“We believe great leaders connect down to the core. They remove all those barriers that we have learned to put on top of ourselves, to cover us, to create that hard shell on the outside. And we’re tapping now into our own humanity to be able to connect with others.” 

“It’s okay to admit that we’re just imperfect human souls trying to do the best we can. That doesn’t make us less impactful. It just makes us human.”


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Today’s guests:

Zina Sutch leads the Office of Diversity, Inclusion, and Civil Rights at the Small Business Administration. Before that role, she held positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the United States Department of Agriculture. She has a long background as an executive in the government. 

Patrick Malone is the director of the Key Executive Leadership Programs at American University. He is a retired Navy captain and has served 23 years in a number of leadership and policy roles in the US Navy. 

Read Patrick and Zina’s book, Leading with Love and Laughter: Letting Go and Getting Real at Work

Connect with today’s guests on their website: sutchmalone.com

If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out my book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.

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Janet is the founder of Power Presence Academy.  She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.